In today’s episode, Taylor is joined by Alisha Robertson. Alisha opens up about her journey from entrepreneurship to a 9 - 5 to being laid off. As someone who’s experience a rollercoaster of career-related emotions, Alisha highlights the importance of learning from past experiences to cultivate resilience. This episode gets real about:
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Meet today’s guest
Alisha Robertson is an author, community builder, and the founder of Doing Everyday Well—a wellness company created to encourage women entrepreneurs to prioritize rest while managing the chaos of life and business. She also established Mind Body Brand, where she hosts in-person wellness events and retreats for entrepreneurs.
After years of experiencing severe burnout, Alisha closed her coaching business in pursuit of healing and unlearning everything she had been taught about running a successful business. Following extensive therapy and a year off from entrepreneurship, she launched her company as a way to assist other women entrepreneurs in defeating overwhelm and prioritizing their well-being. Her mission is to equip women with the practical tools and supportive community needed to achieve intentional alignment between their lives and businesses.
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Taylor Elyse Morrison:
You're listening to Inner Warmup. I'm your host, Taylor Elyse Morrison, founder and author of Inner Workout, ICF certified coach, and fellow journeyer. In 2017, I set out to build a life that didn't burn me out, and I found my life's work in the process. On Inner Warmup, we talk about how self-care and inner work show up in your relationships, your career, your schedule, and then the conversations you have with yourself. We get practical, we get nuanced, and we're not afraid to challenge wellness as usual. So take a deep breath and get curious. This is where your inner work begins. Today's guest is Alisha Robertson.
Taylor Elyse Morrison:
She is an author, community builder, and the founder of Doing Everyday Well, a wellness company created to encourage women entrepreneurs to prioritize rest while managing the chaos of life and business. She also established mind body brand where she hosts in person wellness events and retreats for entrepreneurs. In this episode, you really get a front row seat to Alisha's journey and wow, does she have so much wisdom to share. She talks about moving from self-employment into a 9 to 5, the emotional toll that layoffs can take, and how she's learned to open herself up to possibilities by cultivating resilience. Hey, Alisha. Welcome to the show.
Alisha Robertson:
Hey, Taylor. Thank you so much for having me.
Taylor Elyse Morrison:
I already know this is gonna be such a good episode. And part of why I wanted to talk to you is because there's so much conversation online, especially, where people are like, I need to make the leap into full-time entrepreneurship, and it's like a big deal. It's what a lot of people say that they aspire to. What doesn't get talked about as much is making that leap and then realizing, oop. Actually, it's time for me to leap back into a full-time job. So you are able to, like, speak to a lot of that experience. I wanna start by asking you, what did your business look like when you were working on it full-time?
Alisha Robertson:
Yes. So I was doing business coaching. So at the time, I was taking on 1 on 1 clients, And then I also had towards the end, had recently launched a group coaching program. It was, like, group coaching/membership where it was basically 1 on 1 coaching, but everybody was just together. So, yeah, that was what I was doing, like, full time. So coaching, creating content, you know, the email marketing, the funnels, doing all of the things that we are told we're supposed to do in, like, the online business world, and, yeah, quickly realized that was false.
Taylor Elyse Morrison:
Yeah. So it's like you kinda made it to the place where you were told to be, and then you decided that it made sense for you to go back to a day job. I'm wondering how long did it take? Like, how long were you in this place of, "doing the right thing business wise" before you realized, no, it's time for me to get a day job? And, like, what factors were you considering as you made that decision?
Alisha Robertson:
Yeah. So I will say that, like, going into full-time work wasn't the goal. I knew I needed money. I knew I needed some source of income. But getting a job, I was open to it. Like, I didn't know if I was gonna start another business. I didn't know if I was going to take on, freelance work or whatever. I just knew that I was open to whatever came to me.
Alisha Robertson:
But I prior to then, I have been coaching for about 7 or 8 years. So I've been doing this for, like, a really long time, creating courses, coaching, 1 on 1 group programs. Like, I have been doing it for a really long time. And it wasn't until I had my daughter that I realized that the way I was doing business was not healthy for me. I really struggled with, like, postpartum depression after I had her, learned that I had something called premenstrual disorder or PMDD is what it's often referred to as. And I just knew that I didn't wanna be that type of parent that could not be, like, mindful or present with my daughter. Like, I knew something needed to change. And even at that moment, I wasn't sure if it meant closing my business or changing it, but I did a lot of therapy and really committed to, like, taking better care of myself.
Alisha Robertson:
And I realized that I didn't really wanna do coaching anymore. Like, not only was it burning me out, like, I was always, like, ebbing and flowing from burnout, out of it, burnout, out of it, but I thought that was how entrepreneurship was done. Like, we're told you work, you don't work, you don't eat. Like, we're often told to keep going, be bigger, do more, be better. And I just thought that that was the norm. And it wasn't until I really got serious about taking better care of myself that I realized, one, the way I was doing business was not sustainable, especially for the place my mental health was in. And also just the type of, like, parent I wanted to be. But also too, I just was overcoaching.
Alisha Robertson:
And I had great clients, you know, everyone was getting value out of what I was offering, but it started to feel more like a chore than anything else. And I know from past experience, if I get to that point, there's no turning back. Like, I feel like my season has ended, and it's time to, like, move on to something else. So the October of that year, I closed down my coaching program, closed down coaching 1 on 1 sessions, like, closed everything down, and I didn't know what I was honestly going to do next. Like, I just closed it down. It was like, alright. Life helped me figure it out. And, thankfully, again, I was very open to whatever came next.
Alisha Robertson:
Very open. And the way I got the position on my full-time job after that was very divine because it was like a friend of a friend recommended me and, you know, I didn't have to really, like, put in that typical applying to jobs and having the long, like, edited resume, I didn't have to do all of that. But I closed my program in October, and by I think it was end of March, April, I was working full-time.
Taylor Elyse Morrison:
Wow. So I love that that all worked out for you, and that word that you just kept repeating was, like, openness. You realized the situation you were in wasn't working, and you were open to different possibilities. And I know as, like, a fellow entrepreneur, it's so easy to be like, well, I envisioned it this way. And especially like you were saying, you were doing what everyone was telling you to do. And you're getting clients and you had people, so then what we're told is, yeah, you just double down on it. Like, it's not working. Well, you need to show up more, or you need to do this more.
Taylor Elyse Morrison:
And so kudos to you for pulling back and being open to something else and having this opportunity fall into your lap. I'm wondering because part of why I wanted to talk to you is because you're another entrepreneur who also cares about mental health and well-being and integrates it into your work, and you have a level of awareness that not all founders have. I'm wondering, what did you notice about the shift in your own well-being when you stepped out of self-employment and then found yourself back in a place where you were on someone else's payroll?
Alisha Robertson:
Yeah. I noticed that I was not stressed, first and foremost. Like, you know, with entrepreneurship, it's, like, alright, what do I have to do to, like, make this certain amount of money by this certain amount of time? And I'm not gonna lie, having a paycheck guaranteed every two weeks is an incredible feeling. Like, if I show up at a 100% one day, if I show up at 85%, 45%, I'm still gonna get paid. Like, as long as I do my job. So there was, like, honestly, like, a lot of relief that I didn't even know that I was holding. Had just been, like, released off of my shoulders. I truly feel like I needed that break both mentally and emotionally so that I could think clearly about what I really wanted to do next if I even wanted to do anything new after that. So I really did feel more clear.
Alisha Robertson:
I felt like the weight of the world was, like, lifted off of my shoulders. And I know this is gonna sound weird, but, like, I also felt I don't wanna say like a real adult, but I felt very like, oh, girl, you're doing it. Like, you have a plan. Like, you, you know, you have this steady income coming in. Like, it felt really good to be out of that, like, feast or famine mode that we often feel in entrepreneurship.
Taylor Elyse Morrison:
And this is I can imagine for listeners, this being such a grass is greener moment because there's so many people listening who are like, well, what Alisha is saying is what I wanted. Like, I have the steady paycheck, but I want the excitement of, like, being on my own. And the reality is, from personal experience too, yeah, it can be scary, and I can, as you were saying, like, you just felt that relief. Yeah. And that's part of why, like, Inner Workout is one thing I do in the midst of a portfolio career because it allows me some of the steadiness of having full-time work without just putting pressure on one thing to be all of my income. So I feel you on that. And yeah. It's funny too the things that make us feel like adults.
Taylor Elyse Morrison:
Because it's like, you had a whole kid and this was what made you feel like an adult.
Alisha Robertson:
A whole child, a whole mortgage, like, all the adult things. But a job was the piece that was, like, oh, I'm, like, really a grown up now.
Taylor Elyse Morrison:
Yeah. You're for real for real now. Okay. So you worked that job, and then you experienced something that so many people are going through right now. This actually just happened at one of the organizations that I work with, which was layoffs. So, obviously, one of the biggest impacts of layoffs is the financial side of things. You don't have that steady paycheck anymore depending on what your setup is. Maybe you have some type of, like, severance package.
Taylor Elyse Morrison:
But outside of the money, how did getting laid off impact you?
Alisha Robertson:
It really, like, tore up my ego. Like, my ego really took a hit, and I started to feel a lot more of that stress and weight, like, slowly coming back on me because it's like, I don't know what I'm gonna do. I don't know what I'm gonna do next. I don't have, like, a solid business idea that I can, like, fall back on. Like, I can go looking for jobs, you know, I can do all these things, but there was nothing immediately in the moment that I could, like, seamlessly switch to. And, yeah, my ego was just tore up. Like, I've always prided myself on being a quitter. Like, I've quit dozens from, like, the age of like 15.
Alisha Robertson:
I've quit a lot of jobs, so it's it's kind of in my thing. So then to have this company like, quit me. It was like, how dare you? Like, how dare you quit me? So my ego definitely took a a hard hit, but then, like, you know, after you kinda go through that grieving period, you're like, okay, crap. Like, what am I going to do next? And then you start trying to, like, pick up the pieces and you figure out how to put the puzzle back together. So I still definitely slowly felt that pressure, like, coming back on me immediately.
Taylor Elyse Morrison:
I wanna come back to what you were saying about how it really bruised your ego. And I'm wondering if you can give us some insight as to why that is. Like, were you tying your worth in your job? Or what exactly was it that maybe the conversation you were having internally that caused your ego to really take that hit hard?
Alisha Robertson:
I think it was a lot of tying my worth, and not even as much as my worth, but my identity into the work that I was doing. One of the things that I've had to really be mindful of and that I've talked through, like, a lot of therapy about too is how much when I was a business coach, how much of my identity was tied into Alisha, the business coach. So when I let that go, it was almost like, I don't know who I am. This is what I've been doing for so long. I don't know what I'm supposed to be doing. Like, how do I present myself now if I don't have this title or these credentials or these programs and things? So I think going into that position, I started to do the same thing that I did in my coaching business. I started attaching myself to that role. So now I'm Alisha, the community manager. A lot of it was just me instead of really honing in on who I was, attaching my identity to the work that I was doing.
Alisha Robertson:
So when I got let go, it was almost like, well, what's wrong with me? I gave my all. Was it not good enough? Like, I internalized it a lot. And I, you know, thinking back on it now, I don't believe that it was, you know, my fault the way it ended, but a lot of what I was holding in made me do a lot of, like, criticizing myself because I started to think, well, maybe I could have done this better or maybe I could've did this or maybe I should've stood up for myself more or said this or did this new thing or, you know, I just started, like, going through, like, the what ifs and the shoulds, and a lot of that was just making me, like, criticize myself. And I think that really is because I had placed too much of who I was into that role instead of just looking at it as, this is a job. I'm Alisha. These two things are completely separate. At 5 o'clock, it's done. But I was working for a startup too, so there's really no stop hard at 5 o'clock.
Alisha Robertson:
It was, like, if you're needed, you're needed. So it was really hard for me to, like, separate myself from it.
Taylor Elyse Morrison:
Yeah. And and that's hard for a lot of people. Whether you own a business and you're so aware of how selling this thing translates to you being able to pay your mortgage, or you have a job and you're used to introducing yourself as, like, I'm the community manager here. I'm the vice president of this, or I'm the manager of that or whatever it is, and seeing how people respond or seeing how you feel when you say that. It's a very American thing too. I might expand it to say even western, but I'd say, like, not all European countries have this either. It's we've got, like, some American therapy that we need to do on the way we relate to our work.
Alisha Robertson:
Oh, yes. I was recently speaking to my uncle who has been living in Germany for, like, 30 plus years. And he was explaining how they don't like work on Sundays, and how when work is done, it's done. And how they are fully, like, allowed even just by, like, the country to live their life outside of, like, what they're doing. And we have so much choice. And I'm like, we were not operated like that. Like, we do not think that way over here, and he was just, like, stunned to hear about, like, how much we work over here.
Taylor Elyse Morrison:
Yeah. I can imagine, like, 30 years and being, like, wait, why is it not like this? And that sounds amazing. Like, yeah, people shouldn't have to work on Sundays. And, yeah, like, your government should support you in not having to work all the time. That makes a lot of sense.
Alisha Robertson:
It does. Yeah.
Taylor Elyse Morrison:
So coming back to you, and I know, like, you have some distance between this experience. I'm wondering as you were navigating, having that layoff being let go from your job, what was the support that you had to lean on post layoff? And if there's still support that you're leaning on, what is the support that's, like, helping you get through it?
Alisha Robertson:
Yeah. So, one, I have an incredible husband who understands what I'm going through, and he supports, like, my creative endeavors. And he does a lot of, like, encouraging, but he is also really good at, like, being honest and telling me the truth. So having him has really been needed and incredible. Like, I don't know how I would have been able to shift through this entire, like, past couple of years without his support. And then just having, like, other entrepreneurs who are going through, like, similar things as me. I have, like, a little mastermind group that we meet together every week, and we talk about navigating through looking for a job and running our businesses or pivoting in our businesses and, you know, deciding we want to do something completely different, so, being able to have someone both at home and people that actually are going through what you've experienced, helps a lot and not even just the business side of it. So not like helping me look for a new client or helping me to do this, but having those people who are, like, emotionally, like, understanding.
Alisha Robertson:
Like, those people who make you feel, like, you're not crazy for feeling the way that you do and who are also not trying to, like, invalidate your feelings. Like, everyone I have around me truly lets me know that what I'm going through is normal. It's what a lot of people experience, but they also encourage me to keep pushing forward so that I'm not mentally stuck in that that old space.
Taylor Elyse Morrison:
That's so good. I've said this before. I don't know if I've said it on the podcast, but for me, it's been so important to, like, have people who care about me as Taylor and, like, maybe don't even understand what I do for work. Like, I don't necessarily need them to get what's happening when I'm, like, navigating something with the app or I'm applying for something, or whatever it is. But they just are here for me at an emotional level and whether I, like, got a full time job or Inner Workout became, like, a billion dollar company, it wouldn't matter to them. They just care about me. And then on the other side of things, I like having the people who, like, get it when I'm talking about, do I need to switch payroll providers, or is it time to, like, do this thing tax wise that can understand what I'm talking about and also see me as a person. So, like, having some people who get you as a person and get you as a business owner and a person has just been so supportive.
Alisha Robertson:
You're right. You need that balance. I feel like that's the role my mom plays. She could not tell you what I do other than talk to people on the Internet, but she's so encouraging. Like, you're smart. Like, I know whatever it is you're gonna do. I don't know what it is, but you're gonna be able to do it. So, yes, you're right.
Alisha Robertson:
You need those people who are, like, I don't care about this business. I don't care about these ideas. I wanna make sure you're okay.
Taylor Elyse Morrison:
Yeah. And it's like they're supportive, but they don't they don't have to be in the weeds with you, and that that's okay. That's really valuable. Something you mentioned with that group and for people listening who maybe don't have a business or don't have a business yet, if it's something that they want, That idea mentioned of just having people that you meet regularly with who have something in common with that you can be open about. Whether it's, like, you're all in the dating pool, and you're just, like, talking about what your experience is with that. Or, like, I've been in writing groups before, and we came together to talk about our writing. Just, like, that accountability and that opportunity to express a side of yourself that maybe other people in your life don't fully understand can translate across so many different parts of your life.
Alisha Robertson:
Yeah. Yeah. You need that little hub of people. And I will say too, like, if you don't currently have that, like, don't be afraid to, like, reach out to people. Our mastermind group came together because one girl in the group was, like, I really wanna put these people who know nothing about each other together. And we've been talking for years now. We do, like, a retreat, like, in person every year, and it all started because she simply just put feelers out there.
Alisha Robertson:
She literally just sent us all emails, and it's been incredible. So if you if you feel like you don't have that, like, feel free to reach out to people. Like, use the Internet for good and create your own little little hub of people. And it doesn't have to be a lot, it could be you and one other person. So but as long as, like, you two are there and, like, you can really support each other then I think that's really valuable. Mhmm.
Taylor Elyse Morrison:
That just happened to me where I was on, like, a Zoom networking thing, And someone messaged me. She's in the Chicago area too and ended up getting coffee. And then she's like, you know what? I have had this idea for a book club. Would you wanna be in it with me? And she put it together, and next month, we're having our first meeting. And it was just from being like, we have, like, good vibes on the Zoom call. Let's see where this goes.
Alisha Robertson:
Yeah. I love it, especially when it just clicks.
Taylor Elyse Morrison:
Exactly. You mentioned something in this group about being able to talk to them as you pivot and as you're looking for a full time jobs or whatever it may be. And that's something that I really appreciate and admire about you is that you're willing to pivot. You mentioned it before. You're like, I'm a proud quitter. I'm sure that you've quit plenty of things. I've also seen you pivot on things. And whether it's like the situation changes or you get new information or like what happened with your coaching business, you got it to a point that lots of people would want it to get to and you realized this is not working for me anymore.
Taylor Elyse Morrison:
So as someone who has that ability to be flexible and to be resilient, how do you think that skill set has served you?
Alisha Robertson:
Yeah. Well, it's definitely improved my overall creative happiness, I guess, you could say. Like, if you've ever been in a position where you feel stuck, where you feel unfulfilled, you know that can really, like, deplete your happiness, and it'll really deplete your creativity. So being able to shift into something new, it, like I don't wanna say it keeps me hungry because I feel like that's, like, really hustle culture ish, but it keeps me excited. It makes me wanna learn more. It makes me want to study more and really be a student of my craft. And it really just encourages me to say, okay. What's the next thing? But not in a hustle, go go get it, try to be the best, but, like, okay, if I can really fulfill my purpose in this season, then I wonder how what I learned here is going to help me in the next season.
Alisha Robertson:
And pivoting sounds terrifying and, like, I've done it a lot. I've talked about it a lot, but what I don't feel like I talk about enough is how terrifying it also is.
Taylor Elyse Morrison:
Oh, tell us. Tell us.
Alisha Robertson:
Yes. Oh, god. It is terrifying. Like, I wrote something not too long ago how, like, yes, outwardly, I make these pivots and these shifts and it seems so seamless and, like, everything is well branded. But, like, behind the scenes, I am questioning myself a 1000 times a day if it's worth it, if I'm making the right decision. I have decision fatigue. Like, that is probably my kryptonite, making decisions. Like, I hate it.
Alisha Robertson:
So, like, I'm always, like, questioning myself and going back and forth. And then there is also a little bit of shame that I feel too, and I think that's something I've recently really been able to put a word to. The shame of saying, yes. I've been doing this for this long. It's no longer serving me, but now I'm doing this. I always have a fear of what other people will think. Will I lose their interest? Will they think I'm just someone who's just constantly, like, throwing noodles at the wall to see what will stick? So there is a bit of shame that comes from that, but what I keep in mind and what helps me to really continue to move forward past the fear, past the shame, past the decision fatigue is knowing from my past receipts that every single pivot I have taken in my career, in my life, has helped me to get to where I want to be, or it slowly helped me to really get to where I wanna be. Everything that I've done in these past, I call them seasons, I feel like we all have seasons for different things.
Alisha Robertson:
Everything I've learned in these seasons has helped me to grow in the next season. So, like, it's like I can't just start from point A and then jump to part F. Like, I have to go through all of these seasons to be better prepared for what's coming later. So while it's hard, it's terrifying. I just try to keep in mind that, okay, there is something in this season that I need to learn. And I'm very clear on documenting too and and understanding what I've learned in this season. So I'm a big journaler. I write down everything, but I am really sure to, like, document everything that I learned so that I can take it into the next season and not feel like I was, "wasting time" or just "wasting energy trying things."
Taylor Elyse Morrison:
Thank you for that insight and that reframing. It is, as someone who's also done her fair share of pivots, that being afraid makes a lot of sense and that that shame. I know for me, when I feel the shame and I really get, like, I really sit into it and I'm like, who am I afraid is gonna judge me? And it has been the most random people. It's like, oh, this person I used to know in college or this person that I met at a networking event and they said something that, like, hit at one of my insecurities, and I haven't really engaged with them since. And it's like, I don't actually care what those people think. Like, I'd much rather be true to what I know I need to do. So interrogating, like, that that shame, I think, can be really freeing to both sit with it and then realize, oh, maybe I don't have to be as ashamed as I thought I needed to be. The other thing that you said that I wanted to just highlight is and tell me where I'm wrong, but it sounds like you don't always know what the lesson is, and you don't always know how it's going to build into the next season, but you're trusting that it will.
Taylor Elyse Morrison:
Is that right?
Alisha Robertson:
Yeah. Yeah. So I will do I'm like I said, I'm a big, like, documenter, so I'll write down everything in this current season. But it's not like, oh, I did this one thing. Now it's gonna help me in this other thing. Like, half the time, I have no clue. But I just know from, like, experience that I can take little nuggets and be able to apply it to whatever I'm doing next. But I never really know what is going to be taken from, like, the past season.
Alisha Robertson:
Sometimes, it's just like a mindset shift that I'm taking into the new season. Sometimes it's a mistake or a failure or a wasted money or it's, it could be anything that I've taken into this new season. I can say for, like, an example from coaching, it was definitely my need for rest and unlearning everything, literally everything that I had been taught about how to run a successful online business. I had to let a lot of that go. I had to get back to knowing, like, who I was and building a business that better fit my new lifestyle. When I started my business originally, I wasn't married. Like, I was single. I didn't have any kids.
Alisha Robertson:
And towards the end of, like, me closing my coaching business, I'm now married. I now have a whole child. Like, I'm in a different spot, like, in life. I needed to shift into that next version of me, but I was still just holding on to the past because it was so I was so used to it. So yeah. You never really know what you've learned that you're gonna take into the next season, but I promise you, it's always something. Even if it's something as little as the way you view or react to certain situations or certain failures or certain customer problems, whatever it may be. It could be something as small as that, but you're definitely gonna need that at some point as you continue to grow.
Taylor Elyse Morrison:
That's a good reminder. It sounds like documenting things makes that easier for you to see some of those themes. I'm wondering what other advice you would give to people who hear you saying, like, okay. Alisha can pivot. She's flexible. She's resilient. I want that for me. What advice would you give to people who want to cultivate that skill set too?
Alisha Robertson:
I would definitely say, one, don't feel like you have to rush it. A pivot doesn't mean, like, a hard pivot. Like, I'm a stop this one thing and tomorrow I'm waking up and doing I'm completely changing my life. It does not have to be that serious. But I would start to just again, I'm a big journaler. If you're not a journal type of person, maybe doing, like, some recording voice notes, doing something to where you can kind of get all of your thoughts out of your head. But just thinking about, okay. What is it in this season that is not bringing me joy? What doesn't feel aligned with my life right now? What does not feel aligned with what my ultimate goal is? And then start thinking, the opposite side of those questions.
Alisha Robertson:
Okay. What would bring me joy? What would get me closer to, like, my ultimate goal? What would, you know, make me feel more fulfilled and more excited to get to work or wake up every morning? And just start piecing together those little, I guess, little pieces of the puzzle. Like, start putting it together. And I will say if you're afraid to pivot and you're wondering how to be resilient, I think a lot of people struggle with pivoting because it feels so vital. They're like, I made a decision. If I don't make the right decision, then I can't change. Like, I'm stuck. That's not true.
Alisha Robertson:
Everything in life is an experiment, especially entrepreneurship. So if you are afraid that you're gonna pivot into the wrong decision, just know you can always go back. You can always backtrack, and you don't have to make this huge announcement about you changing your mind or you pivoting or letting something go. You can just make it graceful and slowly phase out what you're no longer doing and slowly phasing in what you are doing. But always remember that you can go back. You can change your mind. It's the Internet.
Alisha Robertson:
Just, like, delete it and pretend like it didn't happen. Like, you don't have to be stuck in just one thing. And then as far as, like, the resilience part of it, yes, you want to make sure that you are moving into something that you find joyful, you find fulfilling, but try not to get so caught up in, I would say, other people's opinions about what you're shifting into because not everyone else is going to understand your vision or your goal. And that is something that I will say has helped me back a lot when it comes to pivoting and just made the process a lot harder is because I put so much weight into what other people thought and put so much weight into other people's opinions about what I was doing. And I realized that, yes, you can go to people for wise counsel, but at the end of the day, it's still your business, still your idea and they may not get the full picture of it. So you can go to other people who remember like this is still your decision and even if nobody else understands it, that doesn't mean that it's a bad idea.
Taylor Elyse Morrison:
This is a good reminder, and this this applies to business owners, certainly. But if you have a creative project, if you do work a 9 to 5, and you're like, I want to apply my skill set in a different industry, and maybe that industry is less prestigious. Or I think I want to go back to school. We're having an episode on that. Like, this skill set of being able to tap into what you want and what feels aligned to you and to step outside of other people's opinions is going to serve you whether or not you have a business.
Alisha Robertson:
Yep. Yep. You can use it literally in anything. Relationships, careers, hobbies, anything.
Taylor Elyse Morrison:
All the thing.
Alisha Robertson:
All the things.
Taylor Elyse Morrison:
We have talked about what you used to do business wise and that it was coaching and that you shut it down. We haven't talked about what you've pivoted into. So to close things out, I'm wondering if you could tell us a little bit about what you're up to now and then how people can stay connected with you.
Alisha Robertson:
Yeah. So speaking of pivots. So I, have a business called Mindbody Brand, which I recently decided to have it more focused on wellness events and hopefully, one day, some retreats for women entrepreneurs. And then I am also creating a line of, a column take care tool kits. So they are essentially tool kits to help women entrepreneurs to really prioritize risk, but actually doing the work of shifting their mindset, implementing rest into their day, shifting their business. And I'm going to be posting those, like, under, like, my personal brand, but you'll be able to find it at doingeverydaywell.com. I'm excited. So that's really what I have been, like, heads down working on is I love creating printed products.
Alisha Robertson:
It's it's always been my thing, but I've never really taken it as seriously as I should have. So I'm really excited to bring my love for wellness and helping women entrepreneurs to prioritize risk and put it in little physical forms. If you want to stay connected with me, I write on substack every single week, every Wednesday at 1:30 PM EST. It's alisharobertson.substack.com. You can find me over there. And then I am on Instagram at doingwellwithalisha.
Taylor Elyse Morrison:
Thank you so much for all of the work you're putting into the world and for all of the wisdom that you've shared with us today.
Alisha Robertson:
Yeah. Thank you so much for having me. I really enjoyed this. Thank you.
Taylor Elyse Morrison:
Me too. Inner Warmup is a collaborative effort. It's hosted by me, Taylor Elyse Morrison. Danielle Spaulding provides production support, and it's edited by Carolina Duque. If you enjoyed this episode, share it with a friend. And if you're looking to continue your inner work, our free Take Care assessment is a great place to start. On that note, take care.
